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Sentence / Paragraph structures under tag "NOTES"? - Categorized in: Feature SuggestionsFeature Suggestions

6 posts. Started 18 May 2007 by sjm1010. Latest reply 30 May 2007 by lkessler. RSS 2.0 feed for this topic RSS
1. Stephen McCarthy (sjm1010)
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Posted: Fri, 18 May 2007 Permalink
Hi Louis,

I was wondering if it was possible to change the way sentence or paragraph structures are presented in Beholds Everything Report, the current structure that appears under the "NOTE" tag?

If you look at each individuals "NOTE" section you will see that the first three to four lines line up under the letter "e" in the word (Note). Every sentence that follows these first few lines are now indented up to three letters. There are also no paragraph breaks in the notes section itself, even though my original notes have them.

This makes the notes appear as if their just one big paragraph, troublesome to read clearly. Is this Beholds way or is it Legacy?

My suggestion is, if possible, that every sentence "under" the "Note" heading should line up under the letter "e" after the initial sentence, cleaner look. My second suggestion would be paragraph breaks in the "Note" section.

If you understand what I just wrote.....your a better man than me!! Thank you.

Stephen

2. Louis Kessler (lkessler)
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Posted: Sun, 20 May 2007 Permalink
Stephen:

I think I see what you're talking about. Notes that are top-level (GEDCOM Level 1) are formatted into paragraphs.

But Notes that are level 2 and below are not. An example is a Note that is attached to Birth or Occupation information.

The concept was to compress all information about a top-level event together to save space. And I had not expected big notes beneath events.

Thanks for pointing that out. I should probably use the GEDCOM formats for notes at any level. But I'll have to figure out how to best do that for an internal note so as to leave the preceeding and following information intact. e.g. What if there are notes on the Birth date, notes on the Birth place, and then notes on the Birth itself, plus source references for all these. It could get messy.

Could you send me an example of a specific note that is most bothersome to you, and I'll take a look at what the best fix might be.

For level 1 notes and lining up under the "e", it seems that the extra indentation for paragraphs after the first is a bug that I never caught starting in Version 0.98.7. I'll fix that.

Also, I know that some people have notes they built with a fixed-format font (each character is the same width). They then lined up information vertically themselves to make the note. Behold uses a default font that is narrow and characters are different widths. This messes up those nicely formatted notes. I'll have to think up something for this.

Louis
3. Stephen McCarthy (sjm1010)
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Posted: Tue, 29 May 2007 Permalink
Hi Louis,

I found why the paragraphs in the "Note" sections were out of sync under "personal-notes" for each individual. Any time you try and break up a large paragraph into more than one Behold will indent the next sentence and any thereafter the fourth sentence. If you write a note and you do not paragraph it then Behold will display each sentence lined up under the following correctly, (one big paragraph). The other note references in Legacy such as event notes, residence notes, and so on, have no problems because the "notes" are incorporated right into the "event" itself. The Personal Note section in Legacy seems to be structured separately from any of the event notes; it appears to be some kind of Legacy ma-thing a ma-whatcha?

Steve
4. Louis Kessler (lkessler)
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Posted: Tue, 29 May 2007 Permalink
Yes, I will get rid of that extra indentation. That is a bug. Hopefully the notes will appear nice again after I fix that.

Unfortunately, there is no real standard as to how programs are supposed to export their notes to GEDCOM. I have to find (or be informed of) the differences, and then do my best to get Behold to display them properly.

After I get the next release out in a few days, please see if the notes appear better. If not, let me know, and I'll see what I can do.

Louis
5. Stephen McCarthy (sjm1010)
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Posted: Wed, 30 May 2007 Permalink
At some point I believe you mentioned that Behold will eventually have the ability to "word process"? I don't want you to think that I am a picky type of person and that I want the corrections right now. I can wait. I just like being a part of this project and watching it come to fruition!!

Steve
6. Louis Kessler (lkessler)
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Posted: Wed, 30 May 2007 Permalink
Oh I have so many ideas ... but it has taken so long just to get here. I probably have rewritten almost every line of Behold (maybe 15,000 lines of my own code) since the first alpha release two years ago.

If it weren't for the firm roadmap I've outlined for myself on my Future Plans page, I'd be getting very frustrated by now.

The beta release (originally planned for about 5 years ago, but now hopefully to come in a couple of months) will be a tremendous milestone for me.

The genealogical word processer of Version 2 is still the ultimate goal. I am as impatient about seeing it as anyone.

Thanks for your kind words. If you can wait, I don't intend to let you and the other supporters of Behold down.

Louis

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