Given all the highly significant changes you're making in 1.1, wouldn't a public beta be useful so we wouldn't all have to hold our breath until you've ironed out all the complexities of date checking and manual updating? Even if the life events weren't all as polished as you'd like, it would us adoring acolytes a sample to play with, get a feel for where you're heading, and possibly even result in useful feedback (probably from the many more qualified than I am). After all, it's not like we're going to follow you over a cliff with our data, it's liability-free. Of course I can see why you might not want a lot of public exposure of the Grand Idea yet - it'l have to be your call.
Like the cat waiting by the mouse hole with baited breath . . .
This wouldn't have been a problem if I didn't string this out so long. From February to now September is much too long between releases. So please bear with me a while longer. Summer and Genealogy Q&A and BetterGEDCOM and work and family and well, life in general, has been getting in the way.
Once I get 1.1 out, I know it won't be perfect. It will be pretty good, but I will look forward to everyone's feedback and suggestions for usability improvements and any bugs that need to be squashed.
But I like being pushed. Thanks for the push. Meow!
You said you like being pushed - this is not a push but a general comment. Its been over year now since the last update and my latest glance shows me that dates set last year for the beginning of this year (2013) are already slipping.
For that reason, I would like to endorse trolleydave's suggestion that you put out a beta not only to keep us interested and get us to help you look for issues but also to give you that push you said you liked.
I appreciate the push - again - and your suggestion.
One good thing to let you know: I got past the "roadblock" - i.e. figuring out how to do the Life events properly. I had been bouncing back and forth on that for several months now.
The not so good thing is that there will be a bit more of a delay. I'm preparing for my Australia trip which starts in two weeks and is three weeks long. There won't be much developing going on for that period of time.
But I'm optimistic now about where I am and there will be some exciting and innovative things coming out of Behold within a short while after that starting with the Life Events.
The Life Events and Consistency checking are both currently in a state of partial completion, and can't be released like this, even in beta.
But maybe I can and should comment them out if I can, and get a new working version out that will at least have all the other changes and fixes in it. Yes, a year is too long, so your suggestion is a good idea.
I'll see if I can get that release out in the next two weeks before I leave.
I read your blog piece about the Aussie cruise - I've heard about going from the fat into the fire but my brother (who lives in OZ) told me recently that temperatures there were 50 degrees centrigrade! And you are leaving temps well below freezing...the comparison should be intriguing...
Is it possible we could have a look at the presenttaions you will be giving on the cruise?
Whatever, here's wishijng you and your wife enjoy the break. I admit to being jealsou - here in the UK we have had rain and floods not quite of biblical proportions but when it wasn't even safe to use one's boat one wonders....
Joined: Sat, 8 Sep 2012
3 blog comments, 10 forum posts
Posted: Sun, 9 Sep 2012
Given all the highly significant changes you're making in 1.1, wouldn't a public beta be useful so we wouldn't all have to hold our breath until you've ironed out all the complexities of date checking and manual updating? Even if the life events weren't all as polished as you'd like, it would us adoring acolytes a sample to play with, get a feel for where you're heading, and possibly even result in useful feedback (probably from the many more qualified than I am). After all, it's not like we're going to follow you over a cliff with our data, it's liability-free. Of course I can see why you might not want a lot of public exposure of the Grand Idea yet - it'l have to be your call.
Like the cat waiting by the mouse hole with baited breath . . .
Dave
Joined: Sat, 8 Sep 2012
3 blog comments, 10 forum posts
Posted: Sun, 9 Sep 2012
Whoops, messed up the punch line. ...cat who ate cheese ...
Joined: Sun, 9 Mar 2003
120 blog comments, 181 forum posts
Posted: Sun, 9 Sep 2012
Dave:
This wouldn't have been a problem if I didn't string this out so long. From February to now September is much too long between releases. So please bear with me a while longer. Summer and Genealogy Q&A and BetterGEDCOM and work and family and well, life in general, has been getting in the way.
Once I get 1.1 out, I know it won't be perfect. It will be pretty good, but I will look forward to everyone's feedback and suggestions for usability improvements and any bugs that need to be squashed.
But I like being pushed. Thanks for the push. Meow!
Louis
Joined: Mon, 12 Jan 2009
35 blog comments, 52 forum posts
Posted: Sun, 9 Sep 2012
Push...push...push
Joined: Tue, 19 Jan 2010
0 blog comments, 3 forum posts
Posted: Fri, 18 Jan 2013
Louis
You said you like being pushed - this is not a push but a general comment. Its been over year now since the last update and my latest glance shows me that dates set last year for the beginning of this year (2013) are already slipping.
For that reason, I would like to endorse trolleydave's suggestion that you put out a beta not only to keep us interested and get us to help you look for issues but also to give you that push you said you liked.
Cheers
Will
Joined: Sun, 9 Mar 2003
120 blog comments, 181 forum posts
Posted: Fri, 18 Jan 2013
Will,
I appreciate the push - again - and your suggestion.
One good thing to let you know: I got past the "roadblock" - i.e. figuring out how to do the Life events properly. I had been bouncing back and forth on that for several months now.
The not so good thing is that there will be a bit more of a delay. I'm preparing for my Australia trip which starts in two weeks and is three weeks long. There won't be much developing going on for that period of time.
But I'm optimistic now about where I am and there will be some exciting and innovative things coming out of Behold within a short while after that starting with the Life Events.
The Life Events and Consistency checking are both currently in a state of partial completion, and can't be released like this, even in beta.
But maybe I can and should comment them out if I can, and get a new working version out that will at least have all the other changes and fixes in it. Yes, a year is too long, so your suggestion is a good idea.
I'll see if I can get that release out in the next two weeks before I leave.
Louis
Joined: Tue, 19 Jan 2010
0 blog comments, 3 forum posts
Posted: Thu, 7 Feb 2013
Louis
I read your blog piece about the Aussie cruise - I've heard about going from the fat into the fire but my brother (who lives in OZ) told me recently that temperatures there were 50 degrees centrigrade! And you are leaving temps well below freezing...the comparison should be intriguing...
Is it possible we could have a look at the presenttaions you will be giving on the cruise?
Whatever, here's wishijng you and your wife enjoy the break. I admit to being jealsou - here in the UK we have had rain and floods not quite of biblical proportions but when it wasn't even safe to use one's boat one wonders....
Cheers mate.....(a greeting in Australian)
Will
Joined: Sun, 9 Mar 2003
120 blog comments, 181 forum posts
Posted: Tue, 19 Feb 2013
Will,
For you and for anyone else who reads this, the presentations are up at: http://sdrv.ms/XZJKN2
I'll be leaving them up there for about a month, after which I'll take them down.
Louis